wahrscheinlich ein erneuter Anschlag auf Dee Lusbys Bienen

das ist doch einfach unglaublich.
Anstatt uns Kleinzellenimkern zur Seite zu stehen und gemeinsam eine Lösung zu finden für die Bienen, wurde unsere Vorreiterin Dee Lusby anscheinend Opfer eines erneuten Anschlags auf ihre Bienenstöcke.
Das Wetter spielte heuer schon nicht mit, denn seit Februar hat es dort nicht mehr geregnet bis vor Kurzem. Jetzt scheint es dass die Bienen Honig eingetragen haben und Dee fuhr zu einem Bienenstand, anscheinend in einem Wildschutzgebiet, um Honig zu ernten. Sie hatte an diesem Stand ca 40 Stöcke und diese hatten alle 5 Zargen. Sie belässt ihnen mehr als 50 kilo Honig und jetzt hätten sie noch mehr überschüssigen Honig haben müssen.
Als sie ankam war ALLES verbrannt und nur noch die Beschwerungssteine waren übrig am Boden wo die Beuten vorher standen.
Sowas ist ihr noch nie passiert, denn ihre Stöcke sind in größerem Absatnd zueinander aufgestellt und rundherum ist alles gesäubert, damit sie keinen Feuerschaden nehmen können.
Dee war schockiert. Es gab wohl ein Feuer, nur es blieben KEINE Reste übrig. Da müssten Nägel und Drähte rumliegen wenn alles verbrannt wäre. Nichts, nur die Beschwerungssteine. Da müssten Reste vom Honig da sein – 40 mal 50 kilo Honig, das sind 2000 kilo Honig – nichts.ABER Dee als alte Kämpferin gibt nicht auf.
Nach dem Anschlag auf ihren Ehemann, der an den Folgen vor einigen Jahren verstorben ist, hat sie sich wieder aufgerappelt und führt seither alleine 700 kleinzellige Bienenstöcke OHNE jegliche Behandlungen.

Das ist Dees Fazit:

Dee Lusby hat geschrieben:
But I am me and won’t give in, and will keep going, that I constantly you
all here to do also, for when the going gets rough, that’s when you gotta
gear up and stand, and not quit.Dee A. Lusby

Übersetzt:
Aber ich bin ich und werde nicht aufgeben und werde weiter machen, was ich immer schon so machte und was ihr auch so machen solltet, denn wenn es brenzlig wird, dann solltest du erst Recht mit verstärkter Kraft weitermachen und nicht aufgeben.

Ich kopier mal das rein was da in Dees Forum diskutiert wird:

Messages
1a
Major Fire Burn
Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:21 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
deelusbybeekeeper
Trying to keep composure typing this as went to field to my biggest yard
right now to start taking honey knowing were strong and filled as had looked
at them fast with drive too about couple weeks ago……..Talking Brown Canyon under Baboquviere Peak and surround by fish and
wildlife federal refuge fwiw too…………and the 40 private acres it is on
bought by another from Kip Ripley several years ago and a location I have had
since early 1980s??? or even earlier in life (1970s) and well…………

anyway, gotta just get this out and stop and relaxd …

well went to yard and found all hives that were good 5 deeps tall, and
heavy, burned completely to ground with no unburned wood left with any hive
burned and never seen so completely done like this before in my
life………and this yard been thru fires and never hurt for always have kept a fire
break around the hives in rows..with spacing betweeen hives………….and no
wood left to burn or barely any charcoal sorta left also, just all hives
gone and scattered top cover rocks on ground…..and well gotta stop and
realax now as cannot type as getting frustrated too much.

but 40+ hives and well over #### honey most cannot imagine and gone ….

D

1b
Major Fire Burn
Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:25 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
deelusbybeekeeper

Well now adding, and many of you have known me a long time, and so again
saying, never saw this scenario/view of a burned yard before, especially
since I keep hives backstocked with average of 100lbs+/- honey on average that
with each frame honey acting like an R17 value, have never seen hives
burned hardly even, or brood destroyed and overheated and have written about
seeing this before………..but no wood left to key to for burned supers left
of ???? and yet in a yard surrounded by fish and wildlife, and now gotta
go check on another location where smoke seen, and a border patrol agent
told me they had to go and rescue a hiker in hills that area which is near
where I keep bees in central colo mtns on Rowley ranch …..and this
coinciding with me being told latelly again, to retire and sell off bees and move
back to town, which I don’t want to do…………

But how can hives with over 100 lbs just in broodnest area burn, let alone
the two deeps above was going to, to start to take home burn like this? and
seeing no signs of honey melt down, which would have left frames and other
left not completely burned and gone???…………for looking too
strange???? in a way having been thru many burns in past helping others and myself
too. But took pictures with my cell phone and will bring with me to
conference coming up with honeylove.org 19-21 August in LA, Calif, to see what
others think looking at the pictures…….for doesn’t look right somehow….!

But I am me and won’t give in, and will keep going, that I constantly you
all here to do also, for when the going gets rough, that’s when you gotta
gear up and stand, and not quit.

Dee A. Lusby

1a
Re: Moving hive warm night.
Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:13 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
deelusbybeekeeper
Yes, smoke will get them inside but do it slowly and then if have to take a
dust pan and soft brush and sweep bees into pan if need be and then open
lid and dump into hive and gently smoke them down with entrance then blocked
as you said……and then in moving since the bees will heat in moving,
mist spray the hive inside with water just prior to moving and then after
moved do same………….and if possible and hot, if inside vehicle put the
AC on too for more cooling for not overheating the hive too.

and sorry to hear about the huge poplar tree down, for can get costly
repairing what done and removing the tree also, or at least cut up and save wood
for using in couple years when wood dry for burning.

Dee A. Lusby

In a message dated 7/17/2016 2:14:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Organicbeekeepers@yahoogroups.com writes:

Big storms blew a huge poplar tree down in my yard, crushing an outdoor
patio and fireplace. Thank God everyone was OK, and miraculously the huge 80
year old tree landed just feet from a nearby hive. Removal of the tree is
going to be a big deal, followed by re-construction of my old stone
fireplace.

Although the tree service owner used to be a beekeeper, he still asked for
the sake of all the workers that will be coming and going in the coming
weeks, that I please move the hive. I have a hive in a friends garden about 7
miles away and plan to move this one out there tonight.

My plan is to wait until after dark, when all the foragers are back, and
tape some screen mesh over the entrance and hole in the inner cover.
Relocate the hive, remove the mesh and put some branches in front of the entrance
to force re-orientation. Has worked well for me before. The whole move
shouldn’t take more than an hour.

Its really been warm here and many of the bees are still hanging around
the entrance and front of the hive through the night. Any tips on getting
them to go inside before I close it up? Will smoke help?

Thanks

2a
Major Fire Burn
Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:25 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
deelusbybeekeeper

Well now adding, and many of you have known me a long time, and so again
saying, never saw this scenario/view of a burned yard before, especially
since I keep hives backstocked with average of 100lbs+/- honey on average that
with each frame honey acting like an R17 value, have never seen hives
burned hardly even, or brood destroyed and overheated and have written about
seeing this before………..but no wood left to key to for burned supers left
of ???? and yet in a yard surrounded by fish and wildlife, and now gotta
go check on another location where smoke seen, and a border patrol agent
told me they had to go and rescue a hiker in hills that area which is near
where I keep bees in central colo mtns on Rowley ranch …..and this
coinciding with me being told latelly again, to retire and sell off bees and move
back to town, which I don’t want to do…………

But how can hives with over 100 lbs just in broodnest area burn, let alone
the two deeps above was going to, to start to take home burn like this? and
seeing no signs of honey melt down, which would have left frames and other
left not completely burned and gone???…………for looking too
strange???? in a way having been thru many burns in past helping others and myself
too. But took pictures with my cell phone and will bring with me to
conference coming up with honeylove.org 19-21 August in LA, Calif, to see what
others think looking at the pictures…….for doesn’t look right somehow….!

But I am me and won’t give in, and will keep going, that I constantly you
all here to do also, for when the going gets rough, that’s when you gotta
gear up and stand, and not quit.

Dee A. Lusby

2b
Re: Major Fire Burn
Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:27 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
wrinn2
Oh, we are so sorry, Dee. Do you think the hives were stolen with fire to cover the theft? We hate to think this way, but shouldn’t there be some debris???

We have no experience with burned hives but some with pinewoods fires. In these the underbrush burns and the trees live if the fire moves fast enough.

Wrinn2
In Northeast Florida…

2c
Re: Major Fire Burn
Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:48 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
deelusbybeekeeper
Well cannot picture someone cleaning out a beeyard, unless desperate for
something, but what? honey? bees? but the pictures on my cell phone look
weird,.. and with bee yard/ stuff on private property and not us forest
service fish and wildlife refuge too…….which is the strange part…….

Dee A Lusby

In a message dated 7/17/2016 9:27:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Organicbeekeepers@yahoogroups.com writes:

Oh, we are so sorry, Dee. Do you think the hives were stolen with fire to
cover the theft? We hate to think this way, but shouldn’t there be some
debris???

We have no experience with burned hives but some with pinewoods fires. In
these the underbrush burns and the trees live if the fire moves fast
enough.

Wrinn2
In Northeast Florida…

2d
Re: Major Fire Burn
Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:54 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
wrinn2
Dee,

Check for metal from frame wiring, nails, screws, and other metal from the hives should be there if hives did burn.

Neither of us are fire experts but we have some idea what remains after a normal fire.

Check out wildlandfire.az.gov/wildfires_news.asp This site lists wildfires over 3-4 acres.

Wrinn2
In Northeast Florida

Re: Major Fire Burn
Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:04 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
deelusbybeekeeper
well, guess what not seeing, and I do hand wire my frames, and metal side
pieces on corners of many supers, plus the other you mention…..odd pile
with wire were old pollen traps were, but the wires in all wired frames that
should be on ground:……

Where is it? So someone did something without telling me what doing on
private property!!!

Dee A. Lusby

In a message dated 7/17/2016 9:55:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Organicbeekeepers@yahoogroups.com writes:

Dee,

Check for metal from frame wiring, nails, screws, and other metal from the
hives should be there if hives did burn.

Neither of us are fire experts but we have some idea what remains after a
normal fire.

Check out wildlandfire.az.gov/wildfires_news.asp This site lists wildfires
over 3-4 acres.

Wrinn2
In Northeast Florida

2f
Re: Major Fire Burn
Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:24 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
„Diane Straight“ diane52000
That is correct, there should be metal left. Wires and nails at least. Now start looking for someone who has bees for sale, I think they would be worth more than the honey in the short term. And the hive boxes also. I know people in that part of the country have complained at length about immigrants breaking into barns and houses, stealing all kinds of stuff, including tools, animals, and even stored crops. Something like that would be quite a bonanza to someone who knew how to handle bees. It would be a planned operation. Invest in veils, a smoker, borrow or steal a vehicle, collect a windfall and burn any evidence. They probably don’t know and don’t care who owns the land, especially if nobody is living there.

With sympathy,
Diane S.

Subject: Re: [Organicbeekeepers] Re: Major Fire Burn

well, guess what not seeing, and I do hand wire my frames, and metal side
pieces on corners of many supers, plus the other you mention…..odd pile
with wire were old pollen traps were, but the wires in all wired frames that
should be on ground:……

Where is it? So someone did something without telling me what doing on
private property!!!

Dee A. Lusby

In a message dated 7/17/2016 9:55:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Organicbeekeepers@yahoogroups.com writes:

Dee,

Check for metal from frame wiring, nails, screws, and other metal from the
hives should be there if hives did burn.

Neither of us are fire experts but we have some idea what remains after a
normal fire.

Check out wildlandfire.az.gov/wildfires_news.asp This site lists wildfires
over 3-4 acres.

Wrinn2
In Northeast Florida

2g
Re: Major Fire Burn
Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:30 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
camofarmgirl
Was this the area where a wild fire was burning? When you first posted this I thought it was from one of the wildfires we had going in Arizona but if it isn’t, then it must be arson/theft. Was any other property in this area destroyed?
How sad and infuriating. I wish you could post the pictures you took so we could see. Let us know what you find out.
Tracy
Prescott, AZ

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